06 May 2011 @ 08:36 pm
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[And here is the Doctor, looking contrite. He has his journal propped up unevenly, and he's draped and covered in criss-crossing cords and wires and he's not looking at it. He's barely even in the frame. It's more like he hit the first button to turn it on (which happened to be video) rather than actually was going out of his way to give a presentation.] My first inmate here was a terrible man. Most of you remember him, or at least are familiar with his name. The Joker, he called himself. He liked to do terrible things to see how far that he could drive people. Some absolutely claimed that he couldn't be redeemed. [He rolls the "r" for redeemed, and then grunts as he tights something.]

He was capable of unspeakable acts of cruelty for no other purpose than to inspire a reaction, his attachments formed in malice and obsession with little fond emotion behind them. But I enjoyed being his warden, I can admit that now. Not because I approved of him or his ideals, but because it gave me a sense of purpose. I was doing something wonderful in attempting to control what was practically the human personification of disaster. It was as though I was presented with every dark and terrible thing about mankind and told that there was the most slim of chances that I buried under all of that destruction and careless hostility and chaotic resistance to empathy and told somewhere under all of that there was the slim chance of a shred of decency. If I could muster a grain of respect from the maniacal madman I had done the world some good. It wasn't my fault that he was here, but I could put genuine effort into stopping and guarding over him.

[He stops to look at something. Stares at it as if he's attempting to bore a hole through it.] I think I broke it- [And on he goes.] In any case, my second inmate was Persephone. What was good had been obvious from the start when she came. Somewhere along the line, this place did to her as it does to many. It corrupted her. It drove her to distraction and when she was placed under the greatest of strains circumstances broke her. She wasn't all that terrible, just a bit misguided and changed as a bad season would change the environment.

I couldn't quite tell you why precisely. Perhaps it was all the times that Death laughed in my face, literally, and mocked taking those that I loved. The times the Gods of Ragnarok- not yours, Loki -but the times they entertained themselves with the suffering of humans as if they were little more than ants. Or Fenric, feeding on evil since the dawn of all things. The Scourge, devouring on fear and twisting victims on their side of the void. It frustrated me to see what could potentially lead to that, no knowing how someone as inhuman as I could give her a greater appreciation for human life. In the end, I simply couldn't manage as a warden in relating to her.

[He turns to adjust the volume and then squints at the screen.] Oh, I had the video on. As I was saying, though, I owe it to her and her warden to say that I didn't choose not to warden her any longer because she was terrible or salvageable or unworthy of my efforts, especially when I was willing to stand by my previous charge through his monstrous behaviour. Simply that a human would be more fitting than a very old man who suffered so long at the hands of gods. So, to Persephone, you've my apologies and best wishes. [He gives a little wave, before switching the feed.]

[Private to Buffy]

Have you had a chance to give some thought to my proposal?

[Private to Dallas]

I saw that you've had concerns with a new arrival. Do you want to talk?

[Private to Tim]

How did that extra hour go?

[Private to Narvin.]

Pub. Now. Don't forget your shoes.
 
 
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Narvinektralonum: smirk[personal profile] timesbureaucrat on May 8th, 2011 07:07 am (UTC)
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[Narvin is good at making clear headed assessments of other people's flaws and predicaments, but it takes a bit longer for him to see his own mistakes and he's near-blind to Gallifrey's flaws.]

I consider everything that happened last week essentially an alternate time line that has no bearing whatsoever on who we are. [He smirks evilly.] Otherwise, you asking me out for a drink might have given me the wrong impression.

Yes, Arthas. What's your plan? I can't imagine you'd let an opportunity like that slide--full access to his mind--without taking at least a little bit of advantage. Perhaps plant a hypnotic suggestion that he lead a peaceful life for the remainder of his existence? For his own good, of course.
championoftime: 7.2 - deep in thought 2[personal profile] championoftime on May 8th, 2011 07:11 am (UTC)
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[He sulks at the drink thing, as if he just thought of that. His woefully innocent (forcibly innocent) mind finally catching up to him.] Of course not- really, you must read A Clockwork Orange at some point. Dreadful book, but makes a terrible point about human behaviour. These psychotic rages? This anger? A good deal of it is because he feels he has no control. Him being able to resist the urge is more important. A hypnotic plant would wither under the slightest invasive influence and what we want is people not using his body and driving him to destructive rage later.
Narvinektralonum: lookin' round[personal profile] timesbureaucrat on May 8th, 2011 07:21 am (UTC)
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Assuming you're correct and teaching Arthas control is the best way to reduce the threat he represents...what do you suggest? His mind is only human. He might be able to be trained to sense a psychic intruder, or block casual scans, but the chances of him being capable of protecting his mind from invasion from a full psychic attack are slim.
championoftime: 7.2 - crosslegged[personal profile] championoftime on May 8th, 2011 07:27 am (UTC)
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His mind isn't even human. It's dead. Why are the dead the first to rise during psychic threats? Why do Daleks hardwire fresh corpses to their whims more frequently than even normal humans? But I've seen a Priest wield off a horde of vampires. Sgt. Howie was immune to the plague Arthas created. A companion loyal enough to me can create a psychic barrier capable of blocking out even the strongest of otherworldly invaders. He's at least willing to try, and willingly of his own choice and without undo influence agreed to not kill anyone during the progression of his studies.
Narvinektralonum: rly?[personal profile] timesbureaucrat on May 8th, 2011 07:32 am (UTC)
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So that's your plan? Will power? It might have worked for Omega, but Arthas is no Founder.
championoftime: 7.2 - alone[personal profile] championoftime on May 8th, 2011 07:36 am (UTC)
[Spam] I keep reading that "Ain't no founder". I'm reading Narvin in hickspeak oh god!
I said I've seen it work. It would be difficult but I'm confident it can be done. Not to the point of establishing resistance to floods entirely, but someone like Barron Sharpe? Certainly.
Narvinektralonum: you have my attention[personal profile] timesbureaucrat on May 8th, 2011 07:41 am (UTC)
[Spam] Hey, maybe during the Western breach?
All right, I'll let you take the lead for now and if it doesn't work we try things my way. What do you want me to do?
championoftime: 7.2 - my you are tall[personal profile] championoftime on May 8th, 2011 07:48 am (UTC)
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The CIA is... rough with it's telepathy teaching, isn't it? Well, for one thing I ought to teach you how to do more than implant a suggestion. Most Time Lords don't know how to do this- in fact, I couldn't in my other incarnations, but do you know how manoeuvre someone else's form?
Narvinektralonum: sinister green[personal profile] timesbureaucrat on May 8th, 2011 07:58 am (UTC)
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Rough, yes. General CIA telepathy training emphasizes interrogation and mental defence and not the subtler skills. We had a special subdivision for when those sorts of things were needed. I know the theory behind puppeteering, but I've never done it.
championoftime: 7.2 - deep in thought 2[personal profile] championoftime on May 8th, 2011 08:12 am (UTC)
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You have to be a bit detached from your body to make it work. As with when you slow your metabolism or go into a healing trance. Only you turn your senses off... [He looks at the glass] I'm not very attached to this form. Sometimes its for the better.
Narvinektralonum: huh?[personal profile] timesbureaucrat on May 8th, 2011 08:18 am (UTC)
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I've become...more attached to my body than I used to be. Nevertheless, I'm still able to force my body to submit to my mind. So I turn off the senses in my own body and...simultaneously throw my thoughts into another?
championoftime: 7.2 - concentrating[personal profile] championoftime on May 8th, 2011 08:28 am (UTC)
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It's not quite as simple as planting the suggestion to do something. It's changing your entire perspective. This arm is now my arm. This skin is now my skin. These lungs are now mine. And if you don't quiet the host it's terrifying for either party. [Aaaand he pours himself another glass.]

Resistance to and recognition of suggestion and being quieted for manipulation are the two things that are going to be most important to learn. After that, most entities would merely pass him by for an easier, less cognizant mark.
Narvinektralonum: CIA[personal profile] timesbureaucrat on May 8th, 2011 08:37 am (UTC)
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I imagine it's more difficult if the host is actively resisting, yes? Can you simply cut off the host's mind's control over its body or must you subdue the mind more thoroughly than that?

So we'll take turns invading Arthas' mind while he practices sensing and resisting the invasion?
championoftime[personal profile] championoftime on May 9th, 2011 08:59 am (UTC)
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Subdue more thoroughly. Put it to sleep. If you don't quiet it it feels... wrong. [He shudders, knowing "wrong" is an understatement.] But that sounds to be a suitable plan.